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Raise Zombie - Meat Shield - Feeding Frenzy - Fortify - Summon Phantasm - Minion Speed While we do run zombies, they are not the focus of this build but rather a supplemental damage source. They are especially nice for mapping as a source of instant clear, where the SRS ramp is most noticeable. Hello, I've been following the updated (I hope) version of this guide posted at around page 123) and it says to use Multistrike for a slot in a minion helm. When I was calculating in PoB: Skeletons-Feeding Frenzy-Melee Phys-Multistrike had -90k (Effective) Skill Hit Damage than Skeletons-Feeding Frenzy-Melee Phys-Ruthless. The Fire-raisers stop engaging when I remove Feeding Frenzy. The enemy is outside of their passive detection range now. Minions can see within a small radius around you and a larger radius around your mouse pointer when you use a skill. Pay attention to how there is initially no reaction when I.
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' Why this would work, people would complain that use minions defensive. Because those would then be on the other end of the scale. ' Well we already have Blood and Sand Stances, they could simply also affect minions. And I agree that if you do something (it would still be a socket) minions could also gain some benefits. Zombies could get a Leap in Agressive Mode and a Boneshield in Defensive as one example. However the current Feeding Frenzy is way too aggressive to be the standard. My Minions mostly run offscreen and its most notably with Kitava Heralds, that just fire a few screens away and are also able to leapslam for considerable distances. It isn't too unusual that my Carrion Golem is the only one on the screen because all other minions have feeding frenzy, which is nice for blights because I just stay at the pump and the minions run out in all directions to kill the approaching enemies. | Posted by Emphasy on Sep 13, 2019, 12:12:42 AM |
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' I get what you're saying, but isn't that kind of like asking for Melee Physical Damage Support to always be part of all melee skills? Some supports are just so insanely good that they become mandatory, but making them free circumvents the opportunity cost that is the entire concept behind support gems in the first place. | Posted by ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate on Sep 13, 2019, 8:43:07 AM |
The main point is that default AI is looked down upon as worthless. Simply rework it so it gains some benefit unavailable to other stances. Have minions aggro on enemies you attack or curse only in default stance, throw in some damage modifier on top and force other stances to use death mark if more dynamic control over targeting is desired. Maybe some extra effect with convocation could be added to only affect default AI. Default - dynamic, easy to control Feeding frenzy - very aggro but hard to control Meat shield - defensive and tough Last edited by respon on Sep 13, 2019, 9:05:55 AM | Posted by respon on Sep 13, 2019, 9:05:25 AM |
' Adding the damage/speed bonuses from the gem? no! Adding the aggressive bit as a aggressive/defensive stance (like blood and sand) to the summon gems? yes please | Posted by Dharall on Sep 13, 2019, 9:26:28 AM |
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Been playing for 2 days and so far AW feels like slightly faster zombies with way less tankyness but I do plan to fix that later with a setup I got in mind. Clear speed is decent. The biggest mistake I see people make so far is using deathmark..Why the fuck would you use it honestly the weapons already melt everything and once you finish lvling melee splash and have the proper speed setup on them they just speed through as fast as you go. Always skip the garbage ones like rings / armour / weapons rewards, they are utter garbage. Here's my setup atm, I always hard stop deliriums at 5 stacks of the reward and so should you as delirium is insanely overtuned with the debuffs the further you go and it becomes literally impossible eventually for your minions to survive the constant spam of gray on gray AOEs. Replace the feeding frenzy gem in my 6l AW setup for minion damage, minions are aggresive by default so slot that up with your carrion golem instead, you'll keep the buff up 24/7 anyway My personal plan for later : 1: Get ravenous horde annointed on ammy. 2: Get the trigger socketed spell on skill wand. 3: Replace helmet for a Devouring Diadem ; slot in haste, skitterbots, generosity-hatred. respec points for MoM and zealots oath (zealot only if necessary, ES might be enough to handle weapons) 4: Finish uber lab - replace shield for an Ahn's heritage shield. 5: Get life/flat cold damage to minion ghastlys / 1 10% movespeed jewel / 1 blind on hit jewel (this is a huge chunk of defense) 6: 6l a Saqawal's Nest and get an aspect of the avian ring. 7: Find perfect life/minion large cluster, respect garbage 4/5% life node for cluster. | Posted by Wyra on Mar 15, 2020, 12:59:33 PM |
I swapped out deathmark. Damage on single target was not the limitation I was running into. Will only swap it back if I come across bosses I can't melt in higher content haha Last edited by Chronicological on Mar 15, 2020, 1:34:53 PM | Posted by Chronicological on Mar 15, 2020, 1:33:51 PM |
How did the league start affect the opninion on cold vs physical? | Posted by FelFelFel on Mar 15, 2020, 1:50:25 PM |
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After watching Ghazzy's explanation on his stream and then testing it myself, I now agree with the people that say as long as feeding frenzy is on the Golem, you don't need to waste a socket in AW for it. The AI and aggressiveness of the AW's looks the same to me when the Feeding Frenzy buff is up and the Golem does an excellent job keeping it proced. This allows a 5 linked AW to be really strong. I am also going to take the advice to skip Delerium when I see the rewards are useless at the beginning. The risk/reward is not worth it for the crapping rewards given that Delerium is overtuned. I am still way behind you guys but I hope to get to maps today. Thanks again to everyone for sharing their tips and hints, it really helps! | Posted by AndyLovesHisBge on Mar 15, 2020, 2:57:32 PM |
' Use the tree I marked 'recommended' ' I don't see anything obviously wrong with your setup. Delirium is tough on minions, they do just get wiped sometimes. Some of the cluster jewels for life/leech/damage have helped me a lot. ' Glad you're sticking with it! Early levels can be awkward but the build really starts to feel amazing once you're into maps. Last edited by MoLoK13 on Mar 15, 2020, 3:52:24 PM | Posted by MoLoK13 on Mar 15, 2020, 3:51:02 PM |
I have not yet used any cluster jewels and am not familiar enough yet to know when one is good enough to slot. I did just pick this up. Is it good enough to slot for the time being or would my points be best spent else where? https://imgur.com/a/86RDuEA | Posted by AndyLovesHisBge on Mar 15, 2020, 4:20:31 PM |
' Call to the Slaughter is decent, but not amazing. Minion cluster jewels are super cheap right now - I got one with 3 good notables for 3 chaos. I'd say hold out for something better. | Posted by MoLoK13 on Mar 15, 2020, 4:25:41 PM |
' ok thanks! I see you have these nicely listed out in the build guide so this will give me something to search for now on the trade sites! | Posted by AndyLovesHisBge on Mar 15, 2020, 4:37:28 PM |
I feel going for 'Ravenous Horde' cluster is a good bargain on this build, as movement speed is a huge QOL for the AW. My 6. link right now (tabula) is 'Minion Speed' and the clear feels so much better, even tho it costs some dps. | Posted by Vanderham on Mar 15, 2020, 4:51:57 PM |